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	<title>Comments on: Combining Tracking with Lowland Search Dogs</title>
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	<description>The bloke that knows sh!t loads of dead cool stuff about search...</description>
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		<title>By: Johnnie</title>
		<link>http://re-search.org.uk/2010/01/25/combining-tracking-with-lowland-search-dogs/comment-page-1/#comment-635</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the dog handler is also operating as a foot searcher (and I suport Susan&#039;s view that they should be 100%) then they will be a better searcher if they train in tracking.

I have heard a huge range of views in how effective tracking is as a SAR technique, and I am not as big a supporter of it as Rob.  However, I am yet to meet a searcher of any discipline who did not believe they were a better searcher as a result of participating in a decent SAR Tracking course.  We have a responsibility to the misper to be the best we possibly can, and Tracking is one of the steps to realising this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the dog handler is also operating as a foot searcher (and I suport Susan&#8217;s view that they should be 100%) then they will be a better searcher if they train in tracking.</p>
<p>I have heard a huge range of views in how effective tracking is as a SAR technique, and I am not as big a supporter of it as Rob.  However, I am yet to meet a searcher of any discipline who did not believe they were a better searcher as a result of participating in a decent SAR Tracking course.  We have a responsibility to the misper to be the best we possibly can, and Tracking is one of the steps to realising this.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Bradley</title>
		<link>http://re-search.org.uk/2010/01/25/combining-tracking-with-lowland-search-dogs/comment-page-1/#comment-596</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan, it is lovely to hear from you [especially the kind words you have to say about the website!]

I can&#039;t have been particularly clear with this post obviously. Let&#039;s try to clear it up.

When I refer to Tracking I&#039;m not talking about the dog tracking but the support person. This person could be looking out for track traps, and other evidence, track or sign, that the misper was in the area, whilst the dog and handler continue their search in the normal way. It might even be a Tracking dog, being combined with a foot tracker in support...

I really hope this reads clearer than it seems!

So the support person would be a &quot;foot tracker&quot; to differentiate them from a tracking dog. 

I also understand that the support does search - but from a foot search point of view, two searchers walking as close to each other as I generally see handlers and support are not searching effectively. By having the support moving further away from the handler - say twenty metres further left and back (obviously depending on the wind/terrain etc.) would give a totally fresh angle to the search and cover the ground more effectively and still allow them to &quot;support&quot; the handler as they would normally.

Of course, if the support was a foot tracker, this further distance might not be as appropriate - the handler and support would need to be closer to coordinate their efforts better.

Don&#039;t presume I know the answer here - but the idea is to put fresh ideas on the table and see what does and doesn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan, it is lovely to hear from you [especially the kind words you have to say about the website!]</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t have been particularly clear with this post obviously. Let&#8217;s try to clear it up.</p>
<p>When I refer to Tracking I&#8217;m not talking about the dog tracking but the support person. This person could be looking out for track traps, and other evidence, track or sign, that the misper was in the area, whilst the dog and handler continue their search in the normal way. It might even be a Tracking dog, being combined with a foot tracker in support&#8230;</p>
<p>I really hope this reads clearer than it seems!</p>
<p>So the support person would be a &#8220;foot tracker&#8221; to differentiate them from a tracking dog. </p>
<p>I also understand that the support does search &#8211; but from a foot search point of view, two searchers walking as close to each other as I generally see handlers and support are not searching effectively. By having the support moving further away from the handler &#8211; say twenty metres further left and back (obviously depending on the wind/terrain etc.) would give a totally fresh angle to the search and cover the ground more effectively and still allow them to &#8220;support&#8221; the handler as they would normally.</p>
<p>Of course, if the support was a foot tracker, this further distance might not be as appropriate &#8211; the handler and support would need to be closer to coordinate their efforts better.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t presume I know the answer here &#8211; but the idea is to put fresh ideas on the table and see what does and doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Jesudason</title>
		<link>http://re-search.org.uk/2010/01/25/combining-tracking-with-lowland-search-dogs/comment-page-1/#comment-595</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Jesudason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robert,

I read your posts with a great deal of interest - thank you for the work you put in to them - but I am somewhat confused by this post. 

I do not understand why you regard a support person for a dog search team as &#039;under-utilised&#039;. As well as providing navigation and maintaining communications with control while the handler focuses on the search dog, the support person will also keep his/her eyes and ears open in much the same way as a usual foot searcher. 

I am also not clear what you are suggesting with regard to tracking. A number of LSDogs are trained to track and I agree it would be great to see many more trained to track as well as airscent. But you have lost me when you say that the support would stay on the path while the handler is off the track. Forgive me if I have misunderstood.

When a dog is tracking he has his nose along the track and the handler follows directly behind, albeit at a distance, holding the tracking line. Assuming the dog is following the scent, whether or not he and his handler are on the path will depend entirely on where the track lies. 

The support person would need to tail the handler (though not necessarily immediately behind) so as to be aware of the team&#039;s position particularly if the track wanders off from any paths, to maintain communications with control and to make notes of any relevant search details when appropriate.

I would be interested to hear the thoughts of other dog handlers/ support persons on this.

Regards,

Susan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert,</p>
<p>I read your posts with a great deal of interest &#8211; thank you for the work you put in to them &#8211; but I am somewhat confused by this post. </p>
<p>I do not understand why you regard a support person for a dog search team as &#8216;under-utilised&#8217;. As well as providing navigation and maintaining communications with control while the handler focuses on the search dog, the support person will also keep his/her eyes and ears open in much the same way as a usual foot searcher. </p>
<p>I am also not clear what you are suggesting with regard to tracking. A number of LSDogs are trained to track and I agree it would be great to see many more trained to track as well as airscent. But you have lost me when you say that the support would stay on the path while the handler is off the track. Forgive me if I have misunderstood.</p>
<p>When a dog is tracking he has his nose along the track and the handler follows directly behind, albeit at a distance, holding the tracking line. Assuming the dog is following the scent, whether or not he and his handler are on the path will depend entirely on where the track lies. </p>
<p>The support person would need to tail the handler (though not necessarily immediately behind) so as to be aware of the team&#8217;s position particularly if the track wanders off from any paths, to maintain communications with control and to make notes of any relevant search details when appropriate.</p>
<p>I would be interested to hear the thoughts of other dog handlers/ support persons on this.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Susan</p>
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